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with most members of congress still in their home district, speaker boehner put that ball in the senate's court. harry reid tossed it right back. are we looking at another lost day in the negotiations? hitching a right on air force one, the new senator from hawaii and it's not what we expected it to be. here we go again. the president in washington and another deadline. secretary geithner warns we will hit the debt ceiling even before we tumble over the fiscal cliff. good morning from washington. it is thursday, december 27th. this is "the daily rundown." i'm luke russert. two days after christmas and washington is back to work trying to harsh out a deal to avoid the fiscal cliff. the senate will get back from the session after holiday break. the president is expected to arrive back to the white house without his family to get back to twork mework to meet the loo deadline. mike is at the white house. let's start with you. the consensus around the hill is that we are more likely than not to go over the fiscal cliff, but there is a small chance harry reid could take a house pass bill and
behind closed doors with house speaker boehner, senate majority leader harry reid and senate minority leader mitch mcconnell talking about doing something to keep more than trillion dollars in tax increases and cuts from taking effect next week. also joining that party today, america's happy warrior. vice president joe biden will be there. while some appear ready to compromise others are still ducking, dodging, trying to dump the blame elsewhere. >> we all have our ideas and in the senate, you're right. we probably another 40, 50, 60 of saying that we're ready to both raise revenues and control entitlements. when's the missing ingredient? it is presidential leadership. >> i think in the end we'll get a deal. the question is the timing. >> am hopeful there will be a deal that avoids the worst parts of the fiscal cliff, namely taxes going up on middle class people. >> it's pretty apparent that we are not going to do what we've been called to do. this is 112th congress. we have had two years to deal with quote the fiscal cliff. >> let's bring in our man at the white house, peter alexande
cuts and spending cuts kicked in. speaker john boehner has been trying to overcome some seriously stiff republican opposition. our senior congressional correspondent dana bash is beginninging our coverage this hour. dana, what's the very latest as far as republicans in the house, the majority are concerned? >> reporter: the very latest, wolf, is that down this hallway is the house speaker's office. in that house right now are minutes of the house republican leadership having a discussion, what are they going to do? are they going to have a vote tonight and more importantly, are they going to try to put this senate-passed bill on the house floor with an amendment. it was very clear in talking to many, many house republicans coming out of a meeting they had earlier this afternoon that there was a big desire to have an amendment with some spending cuts. in fact, i spoke with one of those republicans, steve la tour receipt. >> the speaker, to his credit, says we are famous for putting poison pills in pieces of legislation and they can say, that's a poison pill. he's asked that we be respons
-cabrera in for larry kudlow. this is "the kudlow report." speaker john boehner calls the house back into session for sunday night. that stokes investor hopes for a fiscal cliff deal and this coming just a few hours after harry reid's comments sent the dow into a tailspin. we have complete coverage in this developing story which is happening tonight as we speak. also, as supplies from the obama team, ep achieve lisa jackson stepping down. can the coal companies finally breathe a sigh of relief? guess what happened in britain when the uk banned handguns. the surprising result that could change the gun control debate. "the kudlow report" start ises right now. >>> the big news tonight, still the developments in washington on the fiscal cliff, eamon javers joins us with the details. >> good evening, meshel. capitol hill sources tell cnbc that congressional leaders are planning to go to the white house tomorrow to meet with president barack obama and it is not entirely clear at this point when that meeting will take place and details are still being hammered out and we saw today a blistering series of
? >> both sides say the president started on threshold of tax cut of $250,000. negotiations with boehner he moved to $400,000. not if you have for boehner. he wanted it to be $1 million or more. that is something that can beer worked on. spending cuts the republicans want to see more sacrifice from the president. what they wanted to see in talks not just the small amount of spending cuts to shut off the sequester in the short-term. republicans want entitlement reform, medicare changes and that is nowhere in the deal. that is a major bone of contention. no matter what happens in three or four days, medicare reform, entitlement changes, big battle looming. >> that suggests that the democrats are steering the ship. thank you. chief congressional correspondent mike emanuel standing by on capitol hill with the latest from that end of pennsylvania avenue. mike? >> good evening. coming out o a big white house meeting everybody agrees that the next step should be the senate taking the bipartisan action. so the pressure shifts to senate majority leader harry reid. and what he may be able to strike t
boehner presented this plan b, which would have given -- extended tax cuts to those making less than $1 million and that was soundly rejected by his caucus. he never even presented it to the floor. so basically what he's done is thrown up his hands and said the house is out of this. we're just sitting on the sidelines sadly. so we have to wait and see what the senate is going to do. i was very glad to hear mr. mcconnell and senator reid say that they were going forward trying to work out something. but t.j., we have to address this moment very seriously. because there are so many people who are going to be possibly harmed if we don't act. and so we're just going to have to see what they're able to come up with. >> and i've got some more policy things. but on the politics and the optics of it, explain to people who are watching now who are a couple of days away from their taxes going up. it's hard for them to get their heads around you not being in d.c., that congress or the house at least not being in session. it's as if -- again it's the optics of this thing. it almost sounds like you'
out and showed an olive branch dejon banner ever since he has been in. -- john boehner ever since he has been in. president obama has tried to work with these people to get things done, and they will not work with him. host: let's hear from ron in appleton, wisconsin. caller: i woke up this morning, and i am an engineer, an african-american. i have been blessed with a good income. however, when i woke up this morning, though i feared my taxes going up considerably, i was a bit disappointed. the reason for that is that i'm looking long term. taxes, you have to pay for the debt that we have occurred. at this point, it does not matter how we got there. whether it is republicans and democrats or whatever -- it will take all of us to get out of it. it amazes me that everyone wants everyone else to sacrifice, but when it comes to me, i do not want to give that up. at this point, ok, if you are raising my taxes, ok, but make sure that we take care of the debt. that is the big thing. i'm thinking and 10-20 years down the road. i'm not be around then, but my children will be. host: ok, i appr
of representatives said, and i have it here somewhere, i don't want to be critical of john, meaning john boehner, but if you don't ever bring something to the floor without the votes. so this is what happened last thursday night where he brought this bill to the floor, his plan b, and it went nowhere. was that a major miscalculation for him? >> it was. look, denny was the speakner nea different time. he could hand out projects to districts of wavering members. and he had a very tough leadership team that went out and got the votes. boehner is not a strong leader. he doesn't have the pork and the earmarks anymore since they've been banned. and a lot of the incoming -- or the folks that came in in 2010, the tea party folks, they look at the tom delay are era and say -- >> they're both long time qulil wat capitol hill watchers, and we have to ask you are you seeing any sway now in following boehner? is he losing support? >> obviously the fact that he thought that he would be able to bring the bill last week to the floor to raise taxes on everybody making a million dollars or more and then had to pu
had a day off the fiscal cliff. so there's that. representative john boehner told senator reid to go f himself. twice. >> really? >> according to the folks at politico. so i'm shush we'll be talking about that if stephanie gets here. hoping and praying she gets here. happy new year to everyone out there. yeah, jacki schechner -- >> happy new year. >> happy new year to you too. >> some things don't change. you like to step all over my news before i start. >> oh, geez, did i do that? oh god! okay. there's stephanie. >> stephanie: happy new year. >> let's go to jacki schechner in the current news year. >> whatever, steph. thanks for joining us! good morning everyone. happy new year to you. not only did congress wait until the very last minute to come to a deal to stave off the fiscal cliff but by all accounts, nobody is generally thrilled with what they came to or how it happened. in fact, as chris just mentioned, several sources reporting this morning that house speaker john boehner told senate majority
-called plan b failed in the house, john boehner, speaker of the house said, look, it's up to the senate. we'll not do anything more. we already passed a bill a while back that would extend bush tax cuts for everybody. it is up to the senate to do something. you have senate minority leader mitch mcconnell, the republican saying it is up to the democrats to do something. we'll not do anything until president obama and the democrats come up with a plan and president obama actually late yesterday did call all four leaders, majority, minority leaders in the house and senate that includes mitch mcconnell and said the first time a democrat called him since thanksgiving to talk about this. so they're talking but there is no indication anybody is actually doing anything right now. gregg: what about harry reid? what's his, does he have anything at all maybe towards the end of the week he will put on the table? i've been hearing he will put to a vote an extension of the bush tax cuts for anybody making under $250,000 a year, extend unemployment benefits for some 2 million people that are about to lose
's not going to get inaugust -- inaugurated until the 21st, and boehner thinks the real deadline is february or early march. that's a time frame to look for, and the reality is if you look at the markets over the last while, they are correlated between the commodity markets, oil, bonds, stocks, and that has not been the case for many, many years, and so it's really one trade. there's a macro trade. what's going on in the u.s. with the fiscal cliff, and before that, it was all about europe. david: larry, your picks, disney and direct tv, i know you like the vegas stocks, las vegas sans, boyd gaming as well, but what about john's point that just to be safe because you never know. i mean, the worse can happen, happened before, and could happen again, those jokers inside the beltway very often don't come to a conclusion. wouldn't it be safe to put at least 10 #% of the portfolio in cash right now just in case? >> i just can't see it. the math is so compelling on the other side, and you have this just incredible sentiment. thirty years now, you have not been able to lose money in bonds. a lot of
: well, you know what, peter? there's not lost love between boehner and president obama. are they going to meet? >> reporter: they might, gregg. the speaker is expected to return to washington soon but we still don't know of a specific time set aside on his calendar to meet with the president. actually the last we heard from the speaker he said that since voters in november picked republicans to control the house, he is going to stay true to his party's principles in december in the course of making any kind of a compromise. >> the american people reelected president obama on election day. they also reelected a republican majority here in the house. in doing so they gave us all a mandate. it was not a mandate to raise taxes on families and small businesses. it was a mandate to work together to begin solving the massive debt that threatens our country's future. >> reporter: the house and the senate will both be back in session tomorrow and the president has said he expects them to quickly vote to pass legislation to avoid the fiscal cliff, if, he and the speaker are able to make a deal b
that no republicans block the bill. house speaker john boehner agreed to bring the bill to a vote on the house floor. and leader nancy pelosi with the number of votes needed to pass. >> what folks are looking for and all of us agree on this is action. they want to see that we are focused on them, not focused on our politics here in washington. >> reporter: that was the last time this group met more than a month ago. with time running out to forge a scaled-down compromise, can they agree on even the most basic elements, extending some income tax cuts, preventing pay cuts to medicare providers, fixing the alternative minimum tax. among the options to gain votes, averting an estate tax hike toll woo republicans. there's still time but no room for error. if congress doesn't act -- >> the impact psychologically and financially on americans of another plunge in the negative territory for the economy would be extremely harmful. >> reporter: and candy, as i said, those leaders are still meeting with the president. we'll see if any of them come out and speak to us after that meeting breaks up as soon as we h
ago when speaker boehner had a plan to raise taxes on those earning more than $1 million, the feeling was that he had about 190 republican votes. if the will of 190 holes, then you'll get a -- then you'll get an oath -- if the 190 holds, then you will get a majority. it again, one thing we have learned in this game is that nothing is assured. host: now there is work to be done for this 113th congress. what is the dynamic there? guest: the democrats picked up a few seats in the senate. it is 55-45 at the moment. if john kerry is confirmed as secretary of state, then it goes to 54. democrats have a little more strength. the president gets inaugurated january 20, 21st. then we are back to fighting over the debt limit, the sequester, the continuing solutions. it goes on and on. host: give us the highlights of what was approved by the senate this morning. guest: the bush era tax rates continue for everybody except those individuals earning over $400,000 and families earning over $450,000. they want to bring the levels back to 39.6%. in addition, several other things. the alternative minimu
an obligation to do the best we can and that was made very clear. >> brown: house speaker john boehner aides said if the senate passes a bill the house will take it up and either accept or amend it and a short time ago president obama appeared in the white house briefing room with a statement. here is some of what he said. >> we had a constructive meeting today. senators reids and mcconnell are discussing a potential agreement where we can get a bipartisan bill out of the senate over to the house and done in a timely fashion so that we met the december 31st deadline. but given how things have been working in this town, we always have to wait and see until it actually happens. the one thing that the american people should not have to wait and see is some sort of action so if we don't see an agreement between the two leaders in the senate, i expect a bill to go on the floor. and i've asked senator reid to do this, put a bill on the floor that makes sure that taxes on middle-class families don't go up. that unemployment insurance is still available for 2 million people, and that lays the ground
leader mitch mcconnel are working on a deal. he meet with them along with house speaker john boehner and house democratic leader nancy pelosi.at the white house for about an hour today. he said the meeting was good and constructive. but expressed his frustration for the american people with waiting until stories... >> america wonders why you cannot get things done in this town in an organized timetable. why does everything have to wait until the last minute? now, we are at the last minute. the american people are not going to have many patients for a self-inflicted wound to our economy. >> reporter: coming up at 5:30 we'll have more from the president. and our political analyst michael yaki will give us his take on today's developments. >> catherine: there's rain on the way this holiday weekend. this is a live look from our camera on mount tam. and a look at downtown san francisco. i'm here in the weather center with jacqueline bennet -- where is the wet weather? >> jacqueline: we are still getting some return on the radar but it is still too dry for the rain to hit the ground. it wi
't filibuster over here that he would support and that boehner would support if it were reasonable. but right now we haven't heard anything. i don't know and it's none of my business, i guess, although i am very curious, if the speaker and the majority leader, the republican leader over here are even talking. i mean, what's going on here? mr. president, you can't legislate with yourself. we have nobody to work with, to compromise. that's what legislation is all about, is the ability to compromise. the republicans in the house have left town. the negotiations between the president and the speaker have fallen apart as they have for the last 3 1/2 years. we've tried mightily to get something done. i'll just go over what the little drill here, mr. president, to remind everyone how unreasonable the republicans have been. senator conrad and jeb gray came up with a proposal. commission would be appointed, appoint back to us, no filibusters, no amendments, yes or no. and we did a great job and we closed two bases over two different cycles saving the country hundreds and billions of dollars here. so w
leader harry reid called speaker boehner, that speaker boehner was running dictate toreship in the house. speaker boehner to his face to harry reid, go f yourself and used three other letters. harry reid said back to boehner. what are you talking about. boehner repeated verbatim, go f yourself. this is indication of the poison atmosphere up here. when the sequestration runs out next few months and congress must vote to increase the debt ceiling. it appears speaker boehner is fwirding for a fight on both fronts in a statement that he issued last night. he said in part, quote, now the focus turns to spending. the american people reelected a republican majority in the house and we will use it in 2013 to hold the president accountable for the quote, balanced approach he promised. meaning significant spending cuts and reforms to entitlement programs that are driving our country deeper and deeper into debt. the president last night indicate he is open to come promy to spending cuts but drew a line when it comes to the debt ceiling. here's the president. >> now, one last point i want to make. w
and nancy pelosi leading republicans mitch mcconnell and john boehner. no deal can be reached in past without their cooperation. with the meeting comes a glimmer of hope. in the past all the ifisical cliff talks meetings like this have been the least productive of all. whether he meant to or not the senate majority leader may have spoken for a nation exhausted by seemingly endless fiscal cliff negotiations. >> what's going on here? >> reporter: what indeed. president obama returned to the white house in a grim mood. he met with no congressional leaders and said nothing about his efforts to avert the fiscal cliff, talks continue between senior white house and congressional staff, but that's been true throughout this entire saga. with the deadline looming there were dire predictions. >> come the first of this year americans will have less income than they have today. >> reporter: and recriminations. >> now republicans have bent over backwards. we stepped way, way out of our comfort zone. we wanted an agreement. but we had no takers. >> reporter: the senate's top dem
there are big changes making cuts in spending. the republican leader, we don't know. john boehner hasn't said whether he will bring it to a vote or try to make changes and spend it off to the senate again. this deal that everybody says is so important for the world's economy and not just america is in peril tonight. >> but if the deal does fall down do they go right back to square 1? how long can it go on for? >> well it is able to go on without damaging the american economy. technically america is already over the fiscal cliff. technically there are tax rises and spending cuts brought in. that hasn't happened because it is a public holiday right now. so, that would come into effect. you are right. they are running out of time. there is a new congress on thursday. anything that is still up in the air if not resolved by then it will fall and they will have to go back to the drawing board. in the end there will be a deal. but while the uncertainty continues it will hurt the american economy. >> thanks. fierce clashes have erupted as rebels targeted the airport which is now closed to limit the m
it to john boehner. he got pretty personal. >> he did. he really laid the blame at boehner's lap. talked about the fact that he was surprised that the house isn't even in session, which is true, but let's get real. the senate came back into session this morning. most importantly, he was very, very pessimistic about getting anything done before we reach that fiscal cliff. listen to what he said. >> the speaker just has a few d days left to change his mind, but i have to be very honest, mr. president. i don't know time wise how it can happen now. >> let me kind of lay out the state of play. i'll try to keep it out as much as possible. this is something everybody is focused on. the ball is in the senate's court right now. so what senator reid, who you saw earlier, and the president, what they are trying to figure out is whether or not they can craft what the president called a scaled-back bill, which is what he campaigned on. raising taxes for everybody making more than $250,000 a year and adding a few other tax-related items in there. maybe spending but it's unclear. the question is whethe
to have the day off today. our guest host today is bob broska. house speaker john boehner urging the senate to come up with a passable fiscal cliff solution. he's promising to at least consider any bill that the upper chamber produces. senate majority leader harry reid now expected to base any legislation on a bill passed earlier this year to continue tax breaks for households will incomes below $250,000. a senate bill would likely contain an extension of expiring unemployment benefits. and the other big news of the morning, treasury secretary tim geithner unveiling a plan to buy time under the debt ceiling. in a letter to congress, geithner saying that treasury is going to begin taking steps this week to delay hitting the government's 16$16.4 trillion borrowing limit. treasury will take several measures to save that next year to keep the government from reaching the limit for about two months. but geithner warns it is harder to predict how long the delay will last because of all of this ongoing fiscal cliff negotiations making it harder to forecast what revenue and tax spending
? in effect force john boehner to put it on the floor in which parties tell me it would pass. >> that is then the critical issue, is it not? we heard earlier on with the deputy for dop in the house is a must. details are in private and no one was talking to them. would the deal get passed in the house? >> i think it could. we have been talking to republicans who say they think a deal from the senate will pass in the house but pass with democratic and republican votes. he think speaker boehner will put it on the floor and folks are telling me that but that said, you never know until you know and that's why they have the whip operations. they are counting nos very carefully to find out how many liberal democrats and republicans they can lose on either side to have coalition votes in the middle. that's the real trick. some have been optimistic that this deal will pass and you know, as long as it is within the contours that people are expecting at there point. >> okay. reminder for those of you just tuning in. we are waiting for a live press conference by president obama as we be
mitch mcconnell, house speaker john boehner and house democratic leader nancy pelosi met at the white house yesterday afternoon with the president and vice president. here's where things stand right now. the senate leaders are meeting aiming to avoid tax hikes. and they may vote on a deal sunday or perhaps on monday. jessica yellin is our chief white house correspondent. lisa day jar dayne is on capitol hill. the president used his bully pulpit to reinforce the idea that senators need to get busy. so let's listen. >> the american people are watching what we do here. obviously, their patience is already thin. this is deja vu all over again. america wonders why it is that in this town for some reason, you can't get stuff done in an organized timetable, why everything always has to wait till the last minute. we're now at the last minute. and the american people are not going to have any patience for a politically self-inflicted wound to our economy. not right now. >> so jessica, you were in the room for the president's remarks. on a scale of 1 to 10, let's measure the anger perhaps that
a picture of speaker john boehner there on the front page. how did he factor into this and what was his message to members? guest: he had it tough because he's the one who will eventually need to say he got something done. no one wants to be on a book for the tax increase. they called it eclipsed for reasons. the tax increase on middle class americans was the biggest part of the cliffs. it was the biggest threat to gdp growth of if you let the taxes go up. so that is a tough position he's in. he is facing comment and criticism from conservatives saying don't pass this, because this is just more debt. so it's a tough balancing act. in the end, he has said for his role speakership and he wants the house to work its will. convenientt's a good way to put it at times. and taken back up and say let us see what the house does aunt clara at the house do what it wants. and you're inevitably split with republicans and you let it go through that way. early in the process he voted and walk away and they were gone. during debate last night, many democrats showed up to debate the measure if and said
, signed john amplete boehner. speaker of the house of representatives. the speaker pro tempore: the prayer will be offered by our chaplain, father conroy. chaplain conroy: god of all creation we give you thanks for giving us another day as this chair lies silent still we pray for hope as americans experience anxiety about their future. send a spirit of wisdom and good judgment upon the leaders of congress that they experience peace on earth among all good men and women. this is for your greater honor and glory, amen. the speaker pro tempore: the chair has examined the journal of the last day's proceedings and announces its approval thereof. pursuant to clause 1 rule 1, the journal is approved. mr. kucinich: join us as we pledge aliegesance to the flag. i pledge allegiance to the flag of the united states of america and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under god, indivisible with liberty and justice for all.. the speaker pro tempore: for what purpose does distinguished majority whip, the gentleman from maryland rise. mr. hoyer: ask to address the house. the speaker pro tempor
war in a weekend. >> dave: he can get it done but there is still john boehner and the house republicans. i'm not modestly optimistic. anything through the house at this point. >> juliet: like lindsey gram said two days ago when you call a meeting publicly in washington it usually turns out to be the dog and pony show or theater basically. honestly calling at this late hour. they met for an hour. what could really go down in that type of meeting? things can go down but really, it's just at the edge. they waited so long. they all went on their vacations. >> clayton: here are some things on the table to answer those questions perhaps. generalities. we don't know what's been tabled. democrats still strong about this. they say they were, yeah, here is -- take a look at this. keeping tax cuts for those making $250,000 a year or less. we know that's there. that may shift because we are hearing from republicans they may be willing to go as high as $500,000 a year. of the extended. >> dave: that's my guess. >> extending unemployment tax benefits for 2 million folks still unemployed.
clear. in order for that to happen john boehner basically has to agree that he's going to get a deal out of house with majority democrat votes, and i don't see why he does that before january 3rd. >> you're assuming the president has all the leverage, and i think the president would have a horrible legacy starting out with such turmoil, so i disagree. i think there's movement on the white house side on entitlements. >> rick, you do have to accept the fact that john boehner -- goes for the deal with democratic votes. >> he's about as acrimonious and able to get a deal done as sir harry reid. >> jared -- >> bottom lines, look at the vix, at 20, barely into anything. the market is clearly saying it doesn't care. hey, listen. i run my clients' money looking at the vix with my left eye, but 20, give me a break. you've got to thrill me above 30, above 35 before any of this has anything other than very interesting. >> if we get a deal, say sunday night we get a deal, right, do the markets rally, or does it depend on what the deal consists of? >> secretly, they are going to sell off on the news.
. but the president has made clear in discussions with speaker boehner, these entitlement programs will be on the table but only if it's a broader debt deal. republicans have different ideas. they want to see more cuts in spending right now. >> arthel: thank you very much. >> gregg: congress is not only facing a fiscal cliff, it's up a dairy clarify, if you will. the current farm bill is set to expire on new year's day. if an extension of that is not passed, the farm policies would revert to laws back to 1949 and cost of milk, that could skyrocket. back then the government used a formula to calculate dairy prices that is much more expensive than it is today. one option said to be on the table is short term extension that would prevent milk prices from rising. >> arthel: to other stories. a judge ordering a psychiatric evaluation for a woman suspected of shoving a man off a new york public is way platform. he was arraigned last night on murder and hate crime. she confessed to pushing a man in front of a moving train telling them, i hindus and muslims. co-worker was was behind due. >
. the market doesn't seem to care. >> all the big deal, boehner and obama tried to do last year, still have to do that, simpson boles-type thing. >> by what the secretary of the treasury said yesterday. >> right. >> thank you for being here. >> bromance. a lot of fun. make sure you join us tomorrow. "squawk on the street" begins right now. >>> good thursday morning, welcome to "squawk on the street" live from the new york stock exchange, i'm carl kin ten nia with melissa lee, cramer and neighborer are off today but we are joined by dennis. good morning to you dennis, thanks for coming in. futures today, a lot to deal with as you probably know. the fiscal cliff headline watch continues. you just heard john kanas say the market not too concerned. futures up 21 points. decent data out of europe, we will talk about in a minute what a day for the asian markets again. also coming up. our road map begins at andrews air force base where the president arrives in a couple of hours, cutting his hawaiian vacation short to address the fiscal cliff s there really any hope in the last attempt? does the ma
that the bill was being pulled. i don't enjoy saying this. i consider myself a personal friend of john boehner, and john boehner personally has been very helpful to me over the years. so it pains me to say this. the fact is dismissive attitude that was shown last night toward new york, new jersey, connecticut typifies i believe a strain in the republican party. i know this is not the place to discuss politics, but that politics seeps over into a governmental decision that was made. i can't imagine that type of indifference, that type of disregard, that cavalier attitude being shown to any other part of the country when people we are talking about real life and death situations here, just have the speaker walk off and not tell us. tell an aide to the majority leader who tells us that we tell the majority leader that the item that means life and death was taken off the calendar and is gone for this session? they say it's going to be brought back up in january. the fact is let's be real. we are not in session next week. the following week we are in session for two days. the following week is the
their lines in the sand. john boehner, house speaker told his troops yesterday that he would not go in there and cut any deals. mitch mcconnell is going in there, he spends all morning talking on the floor with his members in the middle of a bunch of votes over there, he's taking their thoughts about what they can expect over there. but there is no reason to think that there is going to be any big breakthrough here. the two sides are just too far apart and too entrenched. is essentially a last-ditch effort to try to basically see if something gets done. heather: talk to me more about that. what we are seeing is a plan c. extending tax cuts, unemployment benefits for people who are going to lose it at the end of the year, and laying the groundwork for growth and deficit reduction. that sounds like tamino guaranteed significant cuts either. >> that's right. part of the problem there for republicans is what they are giving him. they are giving up the tax leverage they would have for bigger and broader tax reform for next year. part of the reason why i don't think we get a deal out of l
to go ahead and cooperate, but because i think it's been very hard for speaker boehner and republican leader mcconnell to accept the fact that taxes on the wealthiest americans should go up a little bit as part of an overall deficit reduction package. >> you talk about a dysfunction in washington. you sign this legislation setting up a fiscal cliff 17 months ago. how accountable are you for the fact that washington can't get anything done and that we are at this deadline again? >> well, i have to tell you, david, if you look at my track record over the last two years, i cut spending by over $1 trillion in 2011. i campaigned on the promise of being willing to reduce the deficit in a serious way, in a balanced approach of spending cuts and tax increases on the wealthy while keeping middle class taxes low. i put forward a very specific proposal to do that. i negotiated with speaker boehner in good faith and moved more than halfway in order to achieve a grand bargain. i offered over $1 trillion in additional spending cuts so that we would have $2 of spending cuts for every $1 increased re
no plans to reconvene. last week, house speaker john boehner said it was up to the house to act on extending unemployment benefits. as we work through all of this, we are happy to be joined by allen capper, head of credit strategy at lloyd's for the hour. welcome back. i guess we're still shaking off the christmas turkey tryptophan, i guess they call it, and yet it feels as though it's groundhog's day. >> yes. you say shaking off the christmas blues and we're shaking still waiting to hear what happened with this fiscal cliff. we knew they would take it to the wire. there's no surprises. what concerns me, this may stretch on until january. now, this is not the first time we've been in a situation like this in my career in the markets. the opportunity is clearly markets may sell off and then an accord has to be reached. i guess a lot of people will be seeing that. >> what are you seeing in credit markets right now? is there a sense they're looking at the strong off move? >> i think in the credit market, liquidity started to disappear last week and now there's no real positioning w
days before the u.s. goes over the fiscal cliff. speaker john boehner has called the house back into session sunday evening. house majority leader eric cantor is telling his members to be prepared to work through january 2nd. both sides are still far apart on taxes and spending cuts. harry reid says prospect deals by monday are unlikely. minority leader mitch mcconnell says there's still time for an agreement. >> republicans aren't likely to sign a blank check just because we find ourselves at the edge of the cliff. that wouldn't be fair to the american people. >> now, a new reuters poll shows americans blame republicans more than democrats or president obama for the fiscal crisis. and when asked who they held more response, 27% said the gop, 6% pointed to the dems and 30% said all of the above. for more on this, we're joined by christian schultz from barronberg bank. welcome. so we're going over the fiscal cliff. >> well, the consumer confidenc already be over the cliff in terms of confidence already. that might already be the first impact of the crisis of -- not of the crisis,
have taken the heat, and john boehner's plan b, a disastrous piece of publicity, got that. do you think that the tide is turning at all and that the jonbenet has been gettinof and . >> and not seeing any leadership for the president and not seeing any for the senate and not seen the budget. i think that the frustration is across th board and it should be felt by all. >> okay, you're sitting there in washington and you tell me now, do you think we get a deal on new year's eve? >> gosh, i certainly hope so. >> do you think we will? >> do you think we will? >> i don't think that this washington, anyone in washington is reckless enough for the country off the cliff. they recognize it's dangerous. stuart: i've got to read between the lines here. you're saying that there will be some kind of last minute stop-gap deal, yes? >> i certainly hope so. stuart: and what would be the form of that deal? what would be in it just a broad outline? go. >> well, we can't see taxes go up on anybody across the board and we have to see the tax rates extended for everyone and-- >> that's not going to happen. >
boehner and president obama talked about, that they address things like alternative minimum tax, and put together a deal that we either try to pass before the end of the year or get agreement to come back right after the first of the year and pass it through both houses. adam: the numbers were something like the president at one point was willing to raise his baht -- bottom line to 400,000. if that's the deal, can you guys, can the men and women in our political leadership pass something before midnight, december 31? >> well, i think so. i mean, and you're going exactly the right direction. if you take what's been put on the table, you got the senate bill, you got the house bill, and you got what president obama and speaker boehner talked about, somewhere in the middle, i think, is a deal we could pass before year end, and as you say, it would be in the $400,000 to $500,000 range, but there has to be a commitment any revenue generated goes to savings, and not more spending. that's the other part of the equation that the president has to step up on to get a deal. adam: senator, we'll have
and boehner doesn't entirely have a sense until he has a senate proposal to try to sell to his house side. >> i just want to remind our viewers, we will join fareed zakaria, "gps" in progress as we watch the senate floor and the senate in general. for any signs of progress. there used to be the hastert rule, a majority of the majority, most republicans, in this case they're at majority, must support a bill before denny hastert would put it on the house floor. i don't get a sense that's where speaker boehner is. >> you could imagine a scenario where the house could pass an agreement that's reached in the senate, with a minority of republicans and dozens of democrats make up the difference. that would essentially be john boehner falling on his sword, diving on the grenade and giving up his speakership. you know, democrats might say this would be a great act of self-sacrifice, not the kind of thing you see in washington. there isn't any indication it's going to happen. it's worth reminding people, if we go over the cliff the world doesn't end. it gets worse the more time passes into january
speaker boehner an exit and give the president an exit and tell these people to play nice in the sandbox and get over it. >> am i going first? adam: you go ahead. >> the sequester is leverage point. for a while therepublicans seemed this was their problem they need to fix. now they're viewing it as president's problem. he likes to spend. maybe you get a very good tax deal with that as the lerage. adam: lindsey. >> honestly i don't think it make as difference. the conversation we're having in washington is so disingenuous. talking about 100 trillion in unfunded liabilities and we're arguing 800 billion in tax increases on 2% of the population we're still not asking tough questions of the middle last. i don't think it matters whether president's plan or republicans plan i don't think it is imagine. adam: i'm shocked you would imply anybody in washington would ever be disingenuous. lindsey and james, thank you very much. we'll talk about the fiscal cliff ad knaus see yum. that's what we do when you're talking about the economy. appreciate you both being here. it is the fiscal cliff gridlock
at a time. it is john boehner. i am proud to work with him. >> is one particularly effective? >> one of the most important pieces of that is speakers who are willing to reach out to members and seek your advice and counsel and input, those speakers have a way of having a lasting impact upon the place. i have spent a number of years in the building. if sam raburn is not a reflection of that, i don't know who is. >> how about presidents under which you have served? >> ronald reagan. i had the honor of serving with him and he signed air quality district act for southern california. the first preschool program in the country was signed by ronald reagan. people hardly believed that but he was willing to use government in a way that was responsive to real challenged that government should be dealing with. i was proud that we had a chance to work together in connection with some of that. >> if you look across, it's a lot of history, 34 years altogether, is there a time when you look back and say those are the best years. those are the ones i enjoyed the most. >> every year that goes by it a
to pass through house republicans and boehner or not? >> yes. and the question about the mini deal would be, what we're talking about, just to make clear for our viewers, would be a temporary extension of tax cuts for incomes under $250,000, a couple of months, for example, a temporary turn-off of the sequester, the automatic cuts equally in defense and nondefense programs that nobody wants to happen, you temporarily turn those off, you extend unemployment benefits, you do something about doctor payments under medicare. if that happens, and clears the senate, there would be a bipartisan majority in the senate if it is allowed to get to the floor, then you would have to have speaker boehner agree to put that on the floor, it would pass the house almost certainly, but the speaker has been reluctant to put any bill on the floor for a vote that doesn't have the support of a majority of his own members, of republican members. he would have to breach that rule in order for it to happen before january 1st. >> which is no small feat, as we see. before we let you go, this business has been very f
day. >>brian: why wouldn't they be. when you went to bed, john boehner served up two possibilities. one you could vote on the senate bill which passed overwhelmingly. two, the house might amend the senate bill and add a bunch of spending. he didn't have enough votes for that entree and in the end a whole bunch of republicans voted for the senate bill, although a whole bunch of republicans voted against the senate bill. it has passed. >>juliet: pretty amazing all the drama over the last 48 hours as opposed to nothing happening over the 48 years. let's take a breakdown. here's a look at how we break down the numbers. $622 billion is what we're seeing in new tax hikes, just $15 billion in spending cuts. we'll get more on that later. $1 spending cut for every $41 in tax hikes. that is pretty much what it amounts to. >>brian: the dollar in spending cuts for every $41 in tax hikes that is for the first year. in ten years it is going to be $1 worth of spending cuts for every $10 of tax hikes. for a lot of republicans, they go that is a lousy deal. >>brian: we're basically reviewing the sa
a difference in every season of the year." the president and speaker john boehner have not spoken in nearly a week. when the house republicans convene conference call today, all they were told is lawmakers will get 48 hours' notice if and when they need to come back to session. the talks first stall over the preferred option of plan "a." moving from the income level of $250,000 to $400,000. the focus shifted to plan "b," boehner fallback and would have raised tax on those making $1 million but failed when could not get republican votes. >> all eyes turn to the senate that could be key to a deal on plan "c." scaled-back bill that the president says will focus on unemployment benefits and reverting to the 250,000 level on taxes. >> i asked leaders of congress to work toward a package that prevents a tax hike on middle class americans, protects unemployment insurance for 2 million americans. lays the groundwork for further work on growth and deficit reduction. >> that means taxes go up for some now and spending cut on medicare and other programs are kicked to another date. >> what the presiden
called john boehner a dictateor and paintin painting -- pointing blame on him. >> we're here in washington working. wile members of the house of representatives are out watching movies and watching the kids play soccer and baseball. john boehner seems to care more about keeping his speakership. >> the republican leader says the democrats have failed. the only reason democrats have been trying to deflect attention on to me and my colleagues over the past few weeks is that they zront a plan of their own. >> the president return forward a last minute push before leaving on vacation in hawaii. he had separate phone conversations but it isn't clear talks helped. >> hopefully there is time for an agreement of some kind. >> washington's failure threatens to undermine the fragile economic recovery. americans face big tax hikes on newer's day. and treasury department warns the dopt will be soon unable to pay bills, the treasury says we're about to bump into that debt ceiling. it's not looking great. a way to calculate how much you'll have to pay if we go over the cliff. the fiscal cli
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